It's starting to go... I want to skip this bit.
It's too noisy.
But all of that here, right, is all brand new and unsustainable.
And Miller and Carter have just given that out to the families.
And the people who bought that have just given it out to families.
All they're doing is packaging it stuck up in bags.
Right, not even running it for the Christmas quarter.
And giving it out to people in the public after you've paid for it.
You could do that.
Oh, that one's noisy.
This is another one.
This is for...
Yeah, exactly.
But how is that sustainable?
It's not, is it?
And anybody could do that.
Anybody who bought those items, right, could just give those out to a family in need.
Couldn't they?
Is this toys as well?
I think it is.
I don't want to zoom in and there's music on it again.
But again, how is that sustainable?
I love how they're diving on the maternity services when we've been working with maternity wards since we started.
But they're like diving on it now to try and give themselves more validation.
You know, and they...
But do you see like how we go out and we give them books for the staff or we give them food for the staff or we provide NHS discount.
We provide like books for NHS to come in and they can pick up a book or games and stuff over Christmas now and you know, we've been doing it for years.
We've been doing our NHS discount for years, haven't we?
Well, since we started.
And do you see how they take what we give?
Like we haven't asked the hospitals for anything, you know.
But do you see how they take what we give back to the people?
Like the people that we've given nappies out to and you know, bits and bobs.
We give all that out, but they are constantly taking off these people.
Like the Pua Gym, not so much Pua Gym, but like the leisure centres.
We put the nappies in the... the swimmer nappies in the leisure centres.
But they're taking stuff from the gym.
Do you see what I mean?
We put pads in the gym from, you know, sanitary pads and tampons.
But they take.
We give.
Thank you to our amazing Hayley Thomas, who straight after the children's party headed up to a grotto.
Loaded... yeah, but you see that isn't a grotto.
That's just where you're keeping your Christmas presents.
But you're making it sound like you've had a Christmas grotto.
Right?
Headed up to a grotto, loaded up the van and got straight out to delivering some Christmas presents.
Well, that's your job, but that's what you're committed to do.
So why do you need the constant validation?
Amazing.
You're an amazing woman, Hayley Thomas.
That's your job.
That's what you signed up to do.
Whether you're getting paid for it or not, you have the accountability to do that job as the CEO, the founder and the trustee.
Well, you're not trustee because you've had to step down because you've got a criminal record.
And your life is so embarrassing that you can't be it.
Otherwise, the Charity Commission will shut you down.
Right?
So you're not a trustee anymore.
But that's your job, to make sure all the T's are crossed and all the I's are dotted.
Yeah?
Superstar!
Superstar!
Why do you... I would die, right?
If my staff started writing stuff like this on my post, I'd be like, shut up!
I would die if people were writing stuff like this about me.
Because the only reason that you've been able to get those presents out is because A.
The public has done it.
B.
Cariann has posted this all over.
That girl needs more recognition than what she's getting because she's running the show over you.
Right?
She has promoted this.
You haven't.
She's probably done all the collections.
Right?
She has promoted this.
She's put out the stuff on Facebook.
She's done all of this.
Right?
All you've done is take it out and be the face of it.
That's all you've done.
Which is your job.
You know, you're a legend.
An absolute legend for taking out presents that the public have bought.
And that they had bags off a local card shop to put them in.
They haven't even wrapped them.
Put them in.
It's hardly a grotto if you're just putting presents in a bag.
You know, I'm expecting elves running around if you say grotto.
Oh my God.
Wonderful woman.
Dedicated to helping others.
Well, you can't go home because you're in the middle of an affair.
It's not like she can go home right now, is it?
Oh, well done, Hayley Thomas and your team.
Yeah, the team.
Don't forget the team.
Oh, Jordan Thomas.
I mean, he got called out the other week, didn't he?
You know, he's been a complete spastic all his life.
He needed other kids caring for him because the DWP wouldn't give him any...
...more carers allowance because she was on her limit for the amount of hours...
...she could care for kids in a week.
So she gave it to like other children, exploited other children as a carer...
...for him and to claim benefits.
Now he's a qualified teacher.
How can you go from being cared for by other children...
...all your life and your family...
...to being a qualified teacher, £30,000 worth of bursary...
...non-taxable bursary to train...
...to being a teacher and then to being called out...
...for texting 15-year-old girls?
You've got to say your mother's the best, really.
You knew because it was her father who was chief of police that got him off.
It's amazing to think that there's so much help from the HUT...
...to make Christmas magical and deserving children.
Well, I don't think it's magical.
I think, yes, you've given stuff out...
...but all you've done is collect the stuff that other people have bought...
...put it in bags that another shop give you...
...and given it out to people who you specify are in need...
...which we know some of these people are not in need.
We had a mouthful of a woman the other day...
...that's got four children.
One of them is a grandchild.
We've got the messages because she sent it all recorded.
She did it all voice messages.
Having a go at us, even though we've helped her in the past...
...with food parcels and lots of other things, right?
All on disability living allowance for the kids, right?
All on benefits.
And she says all this herself in a voice message.
How are they in need if they're on disability living allowance for the kids...
...and they're getting carers allowance and they're getting benefits themselves...
...and the husband works but doesn't live with it?
Now, this information came from this woman herself.
She divulged it all.
I've got it all on record.
So how do they need help when they're on maximum benefits?
They are living the dream over there.
That isn't somebody who needs help to me.
Because they're not only getting child allowance and universal credit and PIP...
...because they're all on PIP.
All the adults are on PIP.
They're also getting disability living allowance for the children, mobility cars...
...all sorts going on.
So how are they in need?
Because they are supported by the government.
A lot.
And yet I see that particular family bouncing around all these different charities...
...getting loads of stuff for free.
Loads of stuff.
I mean they've had food parcels office and clearly they don't need it.
Clearly.
If you're bringing in that amount of money into one household a month...
...you're looking at nearly two or three grand a month, if not more.
You know, that's more than perhaps somebody on the NHS working full-time gets.
That's shocking.
But you've just given them out bags and bags of stuff for free off the public...
...and they don't need it because they've also gone to other events.
So you're not doing your due diligence and checking, either of you.
Absolutely amazing.
Simply the best.
Simply the best.
It's your job.
What else is going to do it?
That poor Carrie Anne expect?
Why would I die if all of this was posted on one of my posts?
I'd die, guys.
Don't do it.
Because I'm nothing without my team at the end of the day.
And I've chosen to do this and it's my job.
Why do you continually need this validation?
Which is so brilliant.
Just get on with it.
Just do it.
We do.
There's thousands of other groups out there that do it.
Without this constant validation all the time.
Now I don't understand this really, right?
Because Living Us Lifestyle put this on.
They do nice food there.
They've got a nice venue, right?
But what I don't understand is, it's all the kids and staff.
That's why I don't understand.
I don't want to go over the kids too much.
But it's all the kids and staff there.
So it's hardly a youth Christmas party when it's all the kids and the staff.
What's my cat doing?
What are you talking to, Elabella?
She's got a shoe.
She's found a shoe and she's dragging the shoe around with her everywhere.
I don't know what she's up to.
No, she's talking to herself.
Let's have a look.
Why are you, you know, posting stuff about Gwent?
It's like, why are you, like...
We've been working with the hospitals and the NHS since we started, right?
Because that's where I studied my nursing, right?
My nursing degree.
And now all of a sudden, they're like diving on the hospitals.
Them and the pantry in Risca, if you look, right?
Community Volunteers Wales.
They're diving on the hospitals, like they need some sort of validation.
You have no connection with the hospitals whatsoever.
So why are you diving on them all of a sudden?
Everything we do, they copy, if you notice.
Hello, Bella.
Oh, she's up to with that shoe.
Sleeping Booty.
Panto.
I'd like to do a pantomime.
Well, I don't want to do a pantomime, but I'd like to go and see one.
I'm seeing one for yous.
It'd be nice if we could put on a pantomime.
Posting may help.
Families, yeah, OK.
What is that in that bowlie looking minging?
Ugh.
But the thing is, right, that's been paid for by Garvo.
So all our food has been given out up there.
It's been paid for by somebody else.
What are you up to?
Hello?
Hello?
What are you talking to?
All our food's been paid for by somebody else.
They haven't paid for it.
It's like you go there for your food, but you've got to be photographed eating your food.
So it's like somebody who's desperate for their food or a hot meal, right, they might think they're not going to get it if they're not photographed.
And she knows, right, because she's pulled up Ian Smith on this, photographing the homeless, so she knows she isn't supposed to be putting those photos of people eating their dinner up, right?
And she's putting them in a difficult position.
Yes, you can take pictures of the food, but you shouldn't be putting...
I mean, why are you taking pictures of people who are vulnerable just for clout, right?
That's why you're doing it.
Eating food?
You know you're not allowed to do it, Hayley, so why are you putting them on there?
And this bit is like, wow, look at this, we cleaned the backyard up.
Well, I think they've paid something to clean the backyard up, right?
So they've paid that.
That's your job.
That's your bloody job, taking the yard tidy.
And this, I just don't get this, like...
I mean, does that look like a household there?
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know where that is.
I don't know if they're delivering the parcels or picking up the parcels there, right?
Does that look like a household there to you that needs help?
Because my first impression of that household there doesn't need help.
Because I can't afford a canopy to go over my thousand and odd pound garden furniture, which I don't own.
Because I got a table off Darren that he brought over on his roof that I had for a tenner.
And I got a plastic chair, and I got a metal chair for me, because I need something a bit more sturdy with my back.
And Dan's still on a plastic chair, I love him.
That's what I've got in my garden.
So I don't know.
Oh, here's their baby bank, look.
How can someone apply for help with presents?
This was six days ago, and it's too late now, apparently, right?
But I'm sure you had enough there to pull something together from them.
Or you could have gone up to your pink boutique and just given them sustainable presents.
Oh, here we are, look.
Here he is.
This is the one that's been such a spastic all his life.
He needed kids to care for him, because she couldn't claim any more.
Or from the DWP, because they were like, Mrs Thomas is not enough hours in a week for you to care for all these disabled children.
Right?
She was cut off, benefit-wise, right?
And she's had other children claiming benefits, because no other adult would pick up benefits for him, which is, you know, there's adults out there that have said, no, I'm not claiming the benefits for him, because I don't think he needs it, obviously.
Right?
And I mean, that's proved that, isn't it?
Because he's now studied teaching with a £30,000 tax-free bursary, because we all know they pay to train teachers, like they pay to train nurses.
Right?
And he's now working in a school without a carer, turning up every day for him, to work and support him to do his job role.
And then, you know, other people have said that he's got away with texting other kids, because his grandfather was a chief of police.
You know, he was texting 15-year-olds.
Why would you text?
If you had a teacher, why would you even have the phone numbers of your children?
That's kept in the office.
Right?
I want a teacher.
I worked in a special needs base in a school for years.
Right?
But I would never have known that a child's personal telephone number or home number is kept in the office.
You know?
Why would you be texting children like?
Greg's collecting the gift cards.
Well, I'm not being funny, but Greg's enterplaying them.
They don't provide them.
Right?
The public have paid for them, and they've posted them in the box, and then HTT take all the glory and go out and give them.
You could just give that to somebody who's homeless or a vulnerable family.
You don't need HTC to do that.
Nice thank yous, thank yous, thank yous.
Again, it looks like old staff there at the Sleeping Beauty event.
You know, all anonymous in there.
There's more.
Your share is like Sue Evans Penrose, right?
She's the new trustee.
But she's been there.
She is Hayley's mouthpiece, because Hayley can't be trustee anymore, because of the criminal record and all the activity that's going on.
Right?
So she's had to step down, or they're going to shut the charity down.
So she's now a trustee.
Right?
But this trustee, directly benefited, right?
From... Oh, I don't think I'm on the long thing here.
Hang on, I'm in the HTC, I want to go into her profile.
This is the illegal part.
Don't tell me she hasn't got anything to do with the bus companies.
Right?
That took them on the holiday, the grant that they had.
I think it was three grand, wasn't it?
Did they say three grand?
I think they did, didn't they?
The council confirmed this.
Mine, not me, the council.
I've just told you what the council confirmed.
Right?
So she, that trustee has directly benefited from that grant, because she's something to do with the bus company.
That's illegal, that's fraud.
And they know that.
I wouldn't be giving over cash like that.
Okay?
And that's from our experience.
Right?
There's been a lot of stuff that's come up about HTT recently, and not all from me, from other people.
Okay?
Ian Smith has been shouting this out from the rafters for years, and nobody's listened to him, other than me.
Right?
I've listened to him.
I don't like him.
I don't want to be friends with him, I can't stand the man.
Right?
But, he's been screaming this out from the rafters for years, and nobody's listened to him.
And if she hadn't started picking on us, right, then she's lost her validity by picking on us, because we've done nothing wrong, but she picked on us because we were popular, and we were more popular than her getting, and she didn't like it.
Right?
That's been her downfall.
Because if she'd have just picked on Ian Smith, because he's an idiot, she'd have got away with that.
Right?
Because people didn't like him.
But, he's been saying this for years.
Everything I've said, he's been saying for years, and it's time people started to listen.
And from our experience, I wouldn't be handing over cash, because it can be so easily stolen, and I mean, you know, we've been card only for well over a year now, and it's the best thing we ever did.
I can tell you that now, our takings tripled overnight.
So the bastards were stealing loads of money.
Those volunteers that we fired, those eight that we fired.
Right?
On the spot.
And we struggled.
It was me, Jan.
Jan was literally doing a couple of few hours a week.
Me, Jan, Dan, and Sammy.
And that was it.
And we ran that for a couple of months on our own.
The whole thing.
On our own.
And we're not afraid of doing it again, but it was the best thing we ever did, was firing them on the spot like that, because they were stealing the money.
Left, right, and centre.
Know that, because the father-in-law, the one of them, wouldn't have paid it back.
I do not hand over cash to these charities whatsoever.
Make sure it's all traceable.
When you go in a charity shop, and I've seen this so many times, you're standing by the till, you pay for your goods, they're talking to you.
How many of them press cash, put it in the till, and give you a receipt?
Think about it.
As you're edging out to the door, they haven't even pressed cash until that cash goes out the back.
They divide it between themselves.
I've seen it a hundred times.
This is why we started our own entity.
Because there's so much corruption out there.
There is so much corruption out there.
I'm not interested in the cash.
I'm interested in the recycling.
What I would tell you to do is pay by card everywhere.
You can make donation by card to all these charity, right?
But it's traceable, guys.
Don't give any of them cash.
We learnt that the hard way.
You know, David's woods could be given out.
They could say, well, can all the families that need bread turn up at such and such a time?
The staff could give it out.
You know, it doesn't need to be given out by them, does it?
Those blankets are no good there.
Because you could catch a finger in them.
You know, another cash donation there.
Look off the Baptist Church in Oakdale.
Is that the one whose husband went to prison and got his priesthood degree in prison?
For smuggling drugs into the country.
Have I got the right church there?
I'll have to go back and look at that.
But again, bizarre connection.
But there is definitely a church in Oakdale that the vicar got his vicar degree in prison while they were doing a massive stretch for drugs trafficking into the UK.
Not just bringing a couple of drugs over in his bag for personal use.
Drug trafficking.
Directly linked to the helping caring team.
And I've got, because I haven't brought all my evidence out, right?
But I've got evidence going back that Hayley had links with this church and this vicar.
For years.
I haven't brought it all out yet.
Well, she's buggered off and I've only raised my voice twice.
I haven't finished with it yet.
Stop handing cash over, guys.
Look, cash 30 quid.
Cheapest, tough best you can buy.
25p.
Come on now, guys.
That's right.
It's not even Crest.
It's not even Aquafresh.
It's the 25p tough best.
Come on, guys.
Think.
Think.
All of these foods get donated.
You've just seen Sainsbury's donating all our food to them.
All of this is getting donated.
All they're doing is putting in bags and giving it out.
We buy stuff for our food bags out of our fundraising.
We also have tins that we give out as well.
But all of that food's being donated.
All they're doing is putting stuff in bags and giving it out on your behalf.
That's all they're doing, guys.
There's more stuff there.
That's just been given out.
It's been given by Poundland.
Poundland could do that.
Poundland staff could have bagged that up, walked it up and down the high street and given it to all the homeless people on the high street.
I bet half of that ended up in Christmas bags.
I bet it didn't even go to the homeless.
I wouldn't be giving them cash, guys.
Pay on card.
And that's every, right?
That's every charity.
That's not just this charity.
Hello, Elabella.
That's not just this one.
That's every charity, including us.
Pay by card.
Well, you can't pay by cash, right?
You have to pay by card.
Best thing we ever did, I'm telling you now.
Because it's all traceable.
Nice jacket.
There's that padded one in there.
Look at that.
Lovely.
Have some beautiful donations in.
We don't mind, I've got to be honest.
And I know here they are, look.
Yeah.
Their baby bank.
Makes me laugh, right?
Their baby bank.
Because they fell for it.
They fell.
Every single one of you fell for it.
We said we're opening up a baby bank.
You all copied.
Ian Smith.
Community Volunteers Wales.
The only one who didn't was Nicola.
And that's because she was using my baby bank.
Helping Care and Team.
You all dived on it.
But the thing is you can't sell any of this stuff because you're not a CIC.
Yeah, you're a registered charity.
So all of this stuff, you need to give out for free.
Whereas CIC is like, you know, 80% free, 20% profit to keep yourself rolling.
Ish.
But you fell for it.
And I knew that from the start.
I know that there's no money, right, in a baby bank.
There's no money in a baby bank.
But you all fell for it.
So now you all got to take on extra premises like £500, £600 a month from your charity money to pay for it.
Yeah?
Minimum £500, £600 rent is.
Yeah?
To store all your baby stuff that you've now got to give away for free.
And you're absolute idiots.
You walked straight into it.
Eyes wide open.
Just to try and take over from me when the baby bank isn't our primary objective.
The baby bank is where the funds go for us.
But like a bunch of dickers, you all copied us and tried to take us down by taking over the world with your baby banks on every corner.
And all you've done is now got your premises filled up with a load of baby stuff that you've got to give away for free.
And you all walked into it.